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@ruins_of 24th like. I wrote "NEEDS to be taller than orcane" here because I did need it to be taller - which is because at the time I was seeing some height debates bout chars being too small to hit. So it wasn't quite a "big for design purposes", turns out it was for "big for gameplay"
@ruins_of 19th like. Perhaps it is time to get to N/A. So, I show the 2nd drawing a lot as my "first concept art of N/A", but im actually lying and the 1st image is the actual first concept art of N/A. Guess it wasn't as visually striking. But the "stand-on-one-hand" thing was there!