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well .... remember optimus bayverse, well in the dotm prequel comics written by Barber they depict Optimus as a madman, his relationship with elita started out pretty (they even visit a robot orphanage) but after the death of sentinel, optimus only told her "what a good soldier"
well in my ausence i was having fun in discord, and things happened and we realize that FortMax is jotaro
@TSoundwave No, I'm gonna make copies of you and sell them as a religious item