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@BalajiXvii This way, Shiva gets to hang out with people who she finds interesting (usually because they remind her of herself), and the other person has their entire worldview challenged by Shiva's mere existence while also functioning as a relatable PoV character for readers.
@BalajiXvii I thought something similar when I read the issue, but while Shiva is also curious of people and their intentions, she (at her best) doesn't try to manipulate or steer them. She just breaks whatever mental obstacles they have (Cass' guilt, Vic's binary mentality) and then...
For example, there was never a story where Lady Shiva said "You know what? Getting poisoned sucks. I should maybe do something to defend myself against it." Or one where she overcame her crippling weakness against people chucking stuff at her back.
The other point is that, as far as Shiva as a character is concerned, all those losses (fair or unfair), draws and training sequences don't count for anything. They didn't lead to any kind of character development for her whatsover, and in some cases, actively regressed her.
The most obvious point to make is that Shiva's rep as some invincible fighter who wins every battle she's in is a tremendously informed attribute, mostly used to hype other character up. That's not exactly news.
The other point is a bit more granular and a lot more bitter.
That means that, if we discount goons and Z-listers, Lady Shiva has lost (fairly or not) or drawn more fights than she's won.
Again, this is all violently subjective, and individual instances are very liable to argument, but the point(s) I'm staggering towards are simple.
So if we were to take that exact same list and remove every 🟢 except the ones that involve Shiva decisively beating a named character, an established quantity, disregarding individual levels of skill (so beating Vic Sage counts as much as beating Cass), the final count is...
For this exercise in nitpickery, pedantry and bias, I'll be using this here list of Shiva appearances. It doesn't include every comic she's been in, but we're only focusing on the ones with fights with 'em.
Also, I'm gonna stick to arcs/storylines instead of individual issues.
Having a bit of a moody day so I'm gonna go ahead and make it even worse by talking about something I don't like talking about for reasons that will be very clear soon: Lady Shiva's fight record!
Let's talk about wins, losses, and everything in between! Guest-starring: MATHS! 🧵
@magifactory @KaliYuga_ai I tried 512 and 728 training.
With 512, I have not tan solid output but results are very bad. I tried 3K steps and 11K and result are awful.
Example with v2 - 512 at 11K training steps (left) (with diffusers)
old training with v1.5 (right) (with shivam repo)
There's some other stuff about this annual as well, like how I don't enjoy her being so intensely aggressive towards Cass, especially after Outsiders, but again, this is just chapter one. And so far, it hasn't fully broken either of my big two Fuck This rules for Shiva comics.
It's (nearly) the end of the year as we know it, but we have one last Lady Shiva appearance to look at -- or at least, half of one. It's the BATGIRLS 2022 ANNUAL! Let's talk about it! Full spoilers and some grumbling ahead:
@artofsago My Damera draenei, retri paladin (art by @/shivawalkerart ) 💜
Vynsira, my green dragon💜💚 (art by @/ChairaeArt )
Inivra, my tiefling :3🖤 (art by @/Koipiroska )
Zeragos, little arcane dragon boy~💜 (basic art by @/the_zombie_cat, cross stitch my)
When you lose the fight against Shiva
(My FF14 character btw)