Let's Talk Lady Shivaさんのイラストまとめ

Meanwhile, in comics we had Bryan Hill's Batman and the Outsiders, which had a cool badass Shiva who *did* care about someone, and it didn't slow her down one bit.

If the fear is that writing Shiva as anything less than a horrible monster will just make her soft or boring...

But please remember and keep in mind that every fight Shiva had with Cass in canon was against a fully-grown, trained, capable version of her. She wasn't throwing hands with a newborn baby, she was fighting a girl who was The Greatest Fighter in the DCU at the time.

But y'know, Shiva was never Mother of the Year. Even in comics, she did abandon Cass to David literally an hour after having her. And the next time they met, she beat her almost to death, and then later beat her ALL the way to death. And you're right, that totally happened!

While Shiva working for the LoA was established all the way back in 2003 in (sigh) Hush, that was one of only two instances of that happening in Post-Crisis continuity. And the other, Gabrych's Batgirl run, made it quite clear that while she worked with them, she didn't...

@yarasnubia I dunno what you're talking about, that series had the two most beautiful Jason Todd panels ever published.

Simply majestic😌

@daiymo98 No, sorry, I mean Hush as in the Batman storyline that introduced the villain. To be more specific, four pages of issue #616 that I feel have done almost irrevocable damage to Lady Shiva's character.

@yarasnubia I agree.

@MizTeeFranklin Totally! I've loved her for years, but the last, like... decade or so hasn't been kind to her. But Hill really put in a lot of work to make her cool and interesting again.

Hell, he was the first to write her having an actual team-up with Cass! Literally breaking new ground here.

The way Cass' then-current metacontext of being only sparingly used as a Batfam footsoldier & getting only the bare minimum of characterization turned what would've otherwise been a bog-standard "daughter you must kill" speech into pure catharsis for cass fans... it was special.

@blksad_1 Me when I see someone talking about brit comics: